![]() ![]() Preceding unsigned comment added by Ky-Guy ( talk Please take a closer look at it before naming the article next time. While the Kanji "地球" normally reads "Chikyu", there is furigana over it reading "Hoshi". Sesu Prime ( talk) 07:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC) Reply So, the article should be without the subtitle, as the English release has no subtitle the Virtual Console version in North America is "Sin & Punishment", not "Sin and Punishment", and certainly not "Sin and Punishment: Hoshi no Keishōsha" or "Sin and Punishment: Chikyū no Keishōsha". But in this case, there is an English name. The accepted naming convention is to use the English-language name unless there isn't one, in which case the native language's version should be used. The kanji for hoshi is 星 but the kanji on the box is 地球 which is earth. Why should this article be named "Sin and Punishment: Hoshi no Keishōsha" when it is now released worldwide either simply as "Sin and Punishment" or "Sin and Punishment: Successor to the Earth"? Parrothead1983 ( talk) 18:25, 15 April 2008 (UTC) Reply How was this title translated as "Hoshi no Keishōsha" when according to this site and others that I've found the name would be "Tsumi to Bachi: Chikyū no Keishousha", why isn't this used in the description and where did the other spelling come from? I suggest using Chikyū not Hoshi unless there is some better source.( Floppydog66 ( talk) 20:36, (UTC)) Reply As a near fluent Japanese speaker, I can verify by looking at the box that is is Chikyuu not Hoshi. Sin and Punishment wasn't released worldwide for the N64, but it was for the Virtual Consoles worldwide. The argument may be that this was its original title, but by that metric wouldn't (for example) the various Resident Evil entries be renamed Biohazard? Aawood ( talk) 11:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC) Reply Resident Evil doesn't need to be renamed as Biohazard, because the game was released internationally. I'm not sure of any reason to use a full or partial romanization of the Japanese title. Should this article stay or be moved? Parrothead1983 ( talk) 09:00, 15 April 2008 (UTC) Reply I vote for Sin & Punishment: Successor to the Earth. Brawl, the game is simply called Sin and Punishment. Dojo, the game Saki originated from is called Sin & Punishment: Successor to the Earth however, according to the North American Virtual Console index web page and according to the Saki Amamiya trophy in Super Smash Bros. Also, why not switch to Sin & Punishment: Successor to the Earth? According to the Smash Bros. It's definitely the proper name for the game.- Impossible 10:22, 9 October 2007 (UTC) Reply Megata Sanshiro has changed the article's name to Sin and Punishment: Hoshi no Keishōsha, but why would it need that? He didn't even name it Tsumi to Batsu: Hoshi no Keishōsha which is the full romanization. The T 02:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC) Reply How is the word "and" wrong? That's what's written on the box art, which you can see in the article. The current title, with the word "and", is just plain wrong. The second best option would be Sin & Punishment, the title used by the US VC. MrDrake 18:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC) Reply I think the best idea would be to keep the original article's title, with the subtitle. ![]() Changing it just for the American name when it's had a Japanese name for 7 years would just be stupid. As such, shouldn't the article name be changed to remove the "Successor of the Earth" part? Cipher ( Talk to the hand) 16:33, 1 October 2007 (UTC) Reply Actually, on the European Wii Shop it's called "Sin And Punishment", with the subtitle following behind in Japanese. Now that the game has been released on the Virtual Console, both Nintendo of America and Europe regard the game's title to be Sin & Punishment (though NOE calls it Sin And Punishment). Gamers' Republic Issue 32, "Cover Story: Sin and Punishment", pg 24-28 (overview and interview with Mesato Maegawa).22, December 2005 (Used Game Magazine, Treasure Legendary Video Games) Interviews from Shigesato Itoi's website.The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future: ![]()
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